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OUTGOING – Handout Session 2 – 15 Sept 2011


Which God?

Group Discussion: With whom could you spend more fruitful time in evangelism – a theist or an atheist?

Colossians 1:15-23

When you picture God, what do you think of?

When you picture Jesus, what do you think of?

When God pictures you, what does He think of?

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If God isn’t like Jesus Christ, He ought to be
Lord Byron

God is Christlike and in Him is no unChristlikeness at all
Archbishop Michael Ramsey

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God is not obvious – He is the unknown quantity.

Jesus is the Image of the invisible God

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We must all begin again with Jesus.  Therefore...

The question for theists: Which God do you believe in?

 

The question for atheists: Which God don’t you believe in?

 

God is Jesus-Shaped

Jesus is God-Sized

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I've got a crazy busy week - seven talks in the next six days.  And on Thursday I'm helping a friend in court against an unscrupulous landlord - please pray for that, we're way out of our depth!

But here's what's been going through my head all day...

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Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying "Lord I just don't care"
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily meal
When friends are gone I know my Saviour's love is real
Your love is real

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Time after time I think "Oh Lord what's the use?"
Time after time I think it's just no good
Sooner or later in life, the things you love you loose
But you got the love I need to see me through

You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love
You got the love

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying "Lord I just don't care"
But you've got the love I need to see me through

Rich Owen has just drawn my attention to this hymn on our union with Christ:

The meter is 88.88, does anyone have a favourite tune for that meter.  There are over 400 to choose from!

‘Twixt Jesus and the Chosen Race
Subsists a bond of sov’reign grace,
That hell, with its infernal train,
Shall ne’er dissolve, or rend in twain.

This sacred bond shall never break,
Though earth should to her center shake;
Rest, doubting saint, assured of this,
For God has pledged His holiness.

He swore but once the deed was done;
‘Twas settled by the great Three One;
Christ was appointed to redeem
All that the Father loved in Him.

Hail, sacred union, firm and strong
How great thy grace, how sweet the song,
That rebel worms should ever be
One with incarnate Deity!

One in the tomb, one when He rose,
One when he triumphed o’er His foes
One when in heav’n He took His seat,
While seraphs sung at hell’s defeat.

Blessed by the wisdom and the grace,
Th’ eternal love and faithfulness,
That’s in the gospel scheme revealed,
And is by God the Spirit sealed.

By John Kent, 1887.

 

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Rich Owen has just drawn my attention to this hymn on our union with Christ:

The meter is 88.88, does anyone have a favourite tune for that meter.  There are over 400 to choose from!

‘Twixt Jesus and the Chosen Race
Subsists a bond of sov’reign grace,
That hell, with its infernal train,
Shall ne’er dissolve, or rend in twain.

This sacred bond shall never break,
Though earth should to her center shake;
Rest, doubting saint, assured of this,
For God has pledged His holiness.

He swore but once the deed was done;
‘Twas settled by the great Three One;
Christ was appointed to redeem
All that the Father loved in Him.

Hail, sacred union, firm and strong
How great thy grace, how sweet the song,
That rebel worms should ever be
One with incarnate Deity!

One in the tomb, one when He rose,
One when he triumphed o’er His foes
One when in heav’n He took His seat,
While seraphs sung at hell’s defeat.

Blessed by the wisdom and the grace,
Th’ eternal love and faithfulness,
That’s in the gospel scheme revealed,
And is by God the Spirit sealed.

By John Kent, 1887.

 

Dan Barker of the Freedom from Religion Foundation tells of his past in evangelical Christianity

I was a "doer of the word and not a hearer only." I went to a Christian college, majored in Religion/Philosophy, became ordained and served in a pastoral capacity in three California churches. I personally led many people to Jesus Christ, and encouraged many young people to consider full-time Christian service.  (Here)

And here's his conversion to atheism as told to a journalist here

[Barker] lay on a burlap cot in a church in a Mexican border town where he'd come to give a guest sermon. As he peered out at a splash of stars, Barker had a sudden profound sensation that had nothing to do with intellect, the kind of deeply felt moment more commonly associated with finding God than losing Him. He was, Barker understood, utterly alone here.

"For my whole life there had been this giant eyeball looking at me, this god, this holy spirit, this church history, and this Bible. And not only everything I did but everything I thought was being judged: Was God pleased? I realized that that wasn't there anymore. It occurred to me, 'I own these thoughts. Nobody knows what I'm thinking right now. There's no fear of hell, no fear of judgment, I don't have to be right or wrong, I can just be me.'" It felt as if charges had been dropped for a crime for which he had been falsely accused. It was exhilarating and frightening all at once. "When you're ready to jump out of an airplane to skydive, you can be terrified but excited at the same time," he says. "There's a point where you go, all right, let's do this."

It strongly reminded me of John Bunyan's conversion:

"As I was passing in the field, and that too with some dashes on my conscience . . . suddenly this sentence fell upon my soul, Thy righteousness is in heaven; and, methought withal, I saw with the eyes of my soul Jesus Christ at God's right hand, there, I say, is my righteousness; so that wherever I was, or whatever I was a-doing, God could not say of me, He wants [lacks] my righteousness, for that was just before him. I also saw, moreover, that it was not my good frame of heart that made my righteousness better, nor yet my bad frame that made my righteousness worse; for my righteousness was Jesus Christ himself, the same yesterday and today for ever (Heb. 13:8)."

"Now did my chains fall from my legs indeed, I was loosed from my affliction and irons, my temptations also fled away, so that from that time, those dreadful scriptures of God left off to trouble me; now also went I home rejoicing for the grace and love of God."

In both conversions naturally enough it was their view of God that changed and that changed them.  Both were weighed down under the scrutiny of Heaven.  Both found a joyful liberation in the death of God.  (Of course Barker's empty heaven does not remove his spiritual masters but multiplies them).

Nonetheless, I think the similarities are very instructive.

Because what did/does Barker need?  More theistic proofs?  These would only have strengthened his notion of a 'giant eyeball' in the sky.  And who could blame him if he wants to be free of that?

Yet there are apologetic strategies that drive the Barkers of this world firmly into atheism, not away.

What should we do instead?

Let's seek to give them what Bunyan got - true freedom through Christ crucified.  It's the death of all the old gods and the life of the new man, free from the eye-ball in the sky.

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From Ben Myers' sermon here:

When we talk about God, when we write books and attend lectures, and read discussions about this question, “Does God exist”—as Christians when we talk about God we’re not talking about some kind of intellectual hypothesis. We’re not talking about a speculative idea that may or may not have certain arguments for or against it. We’re not talking about a psychological technique for coping with the difficulties of our lives. And when we talk about God, we’re certainly not talking about a supreme being that is so infinitely remote and distant from our world that all we can do is kind of look through our little theological telescopes and try to make a few connections.

As Christians—as followers of the Lord Jesus—when we talk about God, we are talking about one who has entered into the very fabric of our world, who has come as close to us as we are to ourselves, a God who has become incarnate. When we talk about God, ultimately, we are always talking about Jesus. For the God of the gospel is the God who has come among us in Jesus of Nazareth.  We believe in God because of Jesus.

Jesus is the one who showed us the face of God—Jesus shows us the truth of God, Jesus shows us the love of God.  Jesus is God’s smile beaming at us out of the depths of eternity.  Jesus is God’s love wrapping around us, seizing us and not letting us go.  Jesus is God’s grace, reaching into the darkest and most shameful dimensions of our experience.  Jesus is God’s healing, binding up the wounded.  Jesus is God’s goodness, in a world full of chaos and disaster and catastrophe.  Jesus is God’s great strength for the weak.  Jesus is water for the thirsty, and when you drink that water you will never thirst again.  Jesus is bread for all those who are starved and hungry, famished for something good and something true.  Jesus shows us God.  He is not God’s explanation, he is not God’s argument, he is not God’s debate.  He is God’s simple, great, loving act, showing us, Here I am, here you are.  In Jesus, God shows us God.  That I believe, is the whole secret of the Christian faith.

Previous session (1A) here.

Session 1B audio.

Session 1 Powerpoint.

Session 1B Full Text.

Outline below...

Peter – A Model Evengelist? 

 

It depends which Peter!

Matthew 26:31-34 – Brash and self-assured

John 21 – Humbled, assured of Christ’s love and forgiveness.

 

1 Peter Overview

Chapter 1

A feeble minority…

Gripped by God…

Showered with blessings…

Enduring suffering

Bringing People to God

He did – 1 Peter 3:18

We are – 1 Peter 2:9-11; 4:10-11

I can – 1 Peter 3:15

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A prayer of Martin Luther's:

“O Lord, deliver me from Christian churches with nothing but Christian saints in them. I want to remain in and be part of a church which is a little flock of faint-hearted people, weak people, who know and feel their sin, their poverty, their misery, and they believe in the forgiveness of God.”

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Week 1 - session 1 audio

Week 1 Powerpoint

Script (Google Docs)

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From the overflow of the heart...

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What do you picture when you think of an evangelist?

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Now describe someone who helped you trust Jesus.

Why is there a difference?

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Evangelist means “Teller of Good News”

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Who needs to hear the gospel?

Me!

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What do I need to do with the gospel?

Believe it!

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Does the world need more evangelists?

That depends!

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Matthew 23:15 – Evangelism can grow Satan’s kingdom!

Garbage In – Garbage Out!

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Matthew 12:34 – Evangelism needs to flow from the heart

Gospel In – Gospel Out!

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Full script here

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