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Get this.  Here's Clark Pinnock as quoted by Mike Horton here:

I cannot deny that most believers end their earthly lives imperfectly sanctified and far from complete.  I cannot deny the wisdom in possibly giving them an opportunity to close the gap and grow to maturity after death. Obviously, evangelicals have not thought this question out.  It seems to me that we already have the possibility of a doctrine of purgatory. Our Wesleyan and Arminian thinking may need to be extended in this direction. Is a doctrine of purgatory not required by our doctrine of holiness?

Now, I don't usually engage in Arminian bashing.  (Usually when I see such beat ups I want to side with the Arminian even if I agree with the critique).  But, with this quote... come on.  Seriously?  A protestant starts thinking that their theology requires a doctrine of purgatory?  Because evangelicals haven't properly thought about it??  Really???

At that point, if not years sooner, shouldn't Pinnock wake up and say "Hold on a minute.  I think I've become one of the baddies!"

...Like in this scene (perhaps Mitchell and Webb's only funny sketch - though obviously Peep Show is untouchably awesome)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsNLbK8_rBY

This is not my attempt at a reductio ad Hitlerum.  I just relate to the whole process of waking up on the wrong side of a battle.

I remember my early days at a certain church where I found myself saying of a certain preacher that he really shouldn't preach Christ so much and definitely not from certain Scriptures.  Let the reader understand.

At that point I had my own "Am I a baddy?" experience.  I've had others too.

What about you?  Have you had an "Are we the baddies?" experience??

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Why does the world with its ""creativity"" and ""artistic excellence"" and ""voodoo rhythms"" make all the best music videos?? Ok, Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI&feature=channel

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Sure, impressive.  If you like infectious pop anthems, brilliant choreography, eye-popping spectacle and irrepressible joie de vivre.  If you're carnal in other words.

Yet for my money, these fine Christian minstrels below have managed to create an equally jaw-dropping response with a fraction of the expense, planning or talent.    

Which, if you ask me, just exemplifies those topsy turvy, right-side-up values of the kingdom.  Don't you think?

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