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When preaching on John 1:1-2 (audio here), my last two points were this:

Jesus is God-sized

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God is Jesus-shaped

I wonder whether much of our evangelism is aimed at persuading people of point number one.  And I wonder whether that emphasis, if divorced from the second point, is quite dangerous.

Here's what I mean - when we tell an unbeliever that Jesus is God, this is what they hear:  "You know the god of the pub discussion - the distant, arm-chair deity, uninvolved and uncaring?  Actually Jesus is that guy!"

"Oh" says the unbeliever.  "Because Jesus looks quite different to that."

"Yeah, I know" we say.  "But you need to look past all that stuff.  Deep down he's really 'the god you've always believed in' All that other stuff is just Jesus' human nature.  Yeah, that's like window-dressing.  Deep down he's The Big Guy."

And what's the result?  Well how many Christian testimonies run something like this...

"I have always believed in some kind of god.  And then I met Jesus.  And the preacher told me that Jesus is the god-I-always-believed-in.  So now I've added faith in Jesus to my bedrock belief in a deity."

Do you see what's happened here?  Some supposed natural knowledge of God is determining a person's view of Christ and determining it from the outset.

It should be the other way around.  Knowledge of Jesus should revolutionize our view of God. We should tell people not only that Jesus is God-sized, we should tell them that God is entirely Jesus-shaped.  Let's introduce them to the God they didn't know.  Let's offer them the Christ-like God.

As Archbishop Michael Ramsey once said (riffing on 1 John 1:5): "God is Christlike, and in Him there is no unchristlikeness at all."

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Adapted from a previous post...

What does it mean to be God-centred?

Three answers:

As a description of theology, it's inescapable.

As a method of theology, it's indispensible.

As a doctrine of God, it's incorrect.

First, as a description of theology...

Simone Weil put our inescapable theo-centricity like this:

"No human being escapes the necessity of conceiving some good outside himself towards which his thought turns in a movement of desire, supplication, and hope. Consequently, the only choice is between worshipping the true God or an idol."

Or Luther in his larger catechism had this to say regarding the first commandment:

What does it mean to have a god? or, what is God? Answer: A god means that from which we are to expect all good and to which we are to take refuge in all distress, so that to have a God is nothing else than to trust and believe Him from the whole heart… That now, I say, upon which you set your heart and put your trust is properly your god.

We're all God-centred.  The question is, which God?

It always bothers me when one Christian claims a superiority over another because they are 'God-centred'.  As a description of someone's theology, that's a plain tautology.  Trying to shout "God" most loudly is not the way forward in assessing the merits of various theologies.  "God" is central.  But we should be much more interested in the question: "Who is this God who is central to our theology?"  Since we're inescapably centred on this vision of ultimate reality, the identity of this God is the vital question.

But before we jettison the term "theo-centric", let's acknowledge a realm in which the term is useful.  As a theological method, theo-centricity is indispensible.  That is to say, as a way of knowing God, we must be God-centred.

Jesus said that the Father and Son are bound together in an eternal Family Secret (Matthew 11:27). Only the Father knows the Son and only the Son knows the Father.  If the verse ended there only God would know God.  But wonderfully the verse continues:

No-one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.  (Matthew 11:27)

There is a way into knowledge of God.  But it's not our way to God, it's His way to us.  We do not know God, but God reveals Himself, through His Son and by His Spirit.  The trajectory is downwards.

When the Spirit reveals Christ as Word of the Father then we know God through God and by God.  And this is the only way to know God.  Therefore our method of theology must be theo-centric.  We must centre ourselves on where God has revealed Himself - in God the Word and by God the Spirit.

So theo-centrism is a useful term.

But... it can be a very misleading idea if we think of it as a doctrine of God.

You see we might grant that all people are focussed on some vision of God.  And we might determine to focus ourselves on God's revelation of God.  But it's an entirely different question to enquire whether God Himself is likewise consumed by Himself.

Of course we should have our hearts and minds fixed on the living God, and of course if we fixed our ultimate affections elsewhere that would be idolatry.  But I have heard philosophical arguments from Christians to say that God must fix His affections on Himself lest He be an idolater too.

Do you see how theo-centrism as a theological method gets confused with theo-centrism as a doctrine of God?

And, more dangerously, do you see how such a method is in fact anthropocentric? It's an argument that says 'We would be idolaters to set our affections on lesser beings, so God must be an idolater if He did that.'  It's a theology from below.  And yet I find it on the lips of the very people who want to accuse all around them of man-centredness.

So let's be clear - everyone is already God-centred in their theology.  The real issue is what kind of God we're talking about.  And the question of theo-centric method does not at all settle the question of God's own being.  While we must be theo-centric, we have to admit that God Himself is higher than the 'musts' that apply to us.  The theologian who says God "must" love Himself higher than the creature has actually followed a theo-logic that is less than God-centred.

God has actually revealed Himself in the Word who became flesh for all time.  If this God was the God we centred on, and if this revelation was the one to which we listened, we'd find no room for the self-centred God.

In this sense then, to be truly theo-centric means extolling the truly other-centred God.

 

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Audio part A

Audio part B

Powerpoint Slides

Outgoing – Session 5 – 6 October 2011

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The Outgoing God

 Last week we considered the Triune God.

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The Trinity is not a maths problem,
It’s the good news that God is love, and we’re invited.

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What are the roles of the Persons?

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2 Corinthians 13:14:

Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ

Love of God

Fellowship of the Holy Spirit

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Isaiah 11:1-5

Isaiah 42:1-4

Isaiah 48:12-16

Isaiah 61:1-3

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Father

Son

Spirit

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What was there in the beginning?

Nothing

Chaos

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Power

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Love



 

Common Objection:  What’s all this nonsense about Trinity?  Isn’t it easier to stick with one God?

 


 

Nicene Creed

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man; he was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried, and the third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father; from thence he shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets.

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What does it mean that the Son is “eternally begotten”?

By the Spirit and through the Son, God is eternally outgoing

Life-giving

Communicating

Shining

Loving

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Richard Sibbes: “God’s goodness is a communicative, spreading goodness. . . . If God had not a communicative, spreading goodness, he would never have created the world.  The Father, Son and Holy Ghost were happy in themselves and enjoyed one another before the world was.  But that God delights to communicate and spread his goodness, there had never been a creation nor a redemption.  God useth his creatures not for defect of power, that he can do nothing without them, but for the spreading of his goodness.”

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God so loved the world that He gave...

His Son...  and

His Spirit

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At Christmas He gave Himself particularly

At Pentecost He gave Himself universally


Common Objection: “Why did God make us?  And who made God?”


Recommended Reading: Genesis 1-5.

What is the relationship between

God <=> Humanity <=> World

Life and Death


Next Week: Dead

God is Life and life-giving, but how do we respond?  We naturally close ourselves off from our true Life-source.  This is the problem for the world.

 

Audio Download

Full Handout

 

Outgoing – Session 4 – 29 September 2011


The Triune God - part two

Compare and contrast the omnibeing with the trinity.

How do these different gods lead to different gospels?

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What is our big problem with the Trinity?

We try to reconcile the omnibeing with the Trinity.

 

We need to replace the omnibeing with the Trinity.

 

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How is God Three?

 

Eternally distinct Persons.

 

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How is God One? 

 

Eternally united in love

Deuteronomy 6:4

 

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Use of “one” in the Bible:  Genesis 2:24; 11:6; 34:16; Exodus 24:3; 26:6; Deuteronomy 6:4; Joshua 9:2; 10:42; 2 Samuel 2:25; 2 Chronicles 5:12; 30:12; Ezra 6:24; John 17:11,20-21

 

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God is one the way a married couple or a united church is one.

 

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Perichoresis – the round dance of the Three!

 

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We must uphold UNITY, DISTINCTION and EQUALITY

 

Arianism:  Jesus is not as God as God is God!  (JWs)

Modalism: There’s one Person wearing 3 masks (TD Jakes)

Tritheism: There are three Gods doings their own thing.

 

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Almost all analogies are rubbish.  But....

 

Humanity is in the image of God!  Genesis 1:26ff.

 

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The Roles of the Persons

 

2 Corinthians 13:14
Isaiah 11:1-5; Is 42:1-4; Is 48:12-16; Is 61:1-3

 

The Father is the Loving Sender / Initiator

 

John 3:16, 35; 1John 4:8-9

 

The Son is the Beloved and Obedient Sent-One / Executor

 

Psalm 40:7-8: John 5:30

 

The Spirit is the Personal Empowerer / Perfector / Applier

 

Acts 10:38; Romans 8:14-16

 

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All things are FROM the Father,

THROUGH the Son

and BY THE POWER OF the Spirit.

 

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What are the benefits of being explicitly Trinitarian?

 

Relationship
Radiance
Room
Response

 

 

 


 

Common Objection: “What’s all this nonsense about a trinity? Isn’t it easier to stick to the one God?”

 


 

 

 

Recommended Reading: 1 John. What does it mean that God is love?

 

 

 

 

Audio Download

Full Handout

 

Outgoing – Session 4 – 29 September 2011


The Triune God

 What was there in the beginning?

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The Trinity – Tri-unity – Three Persons united in love.

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Galatians 3:26-4:7

God the Son became God our Brother.

He came to make the perfect offering.

He brings us into His Sonship.

We are clothed in Christ,

Filled with the Spirit,

Doted on by the Father.

The trinity is not a maths problem!

It’s the good news that God is love...

... and we are invited!

Compare and contrast with the solitary, lonely god.

 

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"God's wrath is as eternal as God's love!"

That was emblazoned on the first page of a tract being offered by some Christians at a literature table in town.  Can you believe it?  That's the opening gambit!

When I pressed them on it, they said, Of course God is love.  But He also hates.

"Which is more eternal?" I asked.  They couldn't say.

Well I can.

He is Father - eternally begetting (giving life to) His Son.

He is Radiance - eternally shining out the Light of His beauty.

He is Speaker - eternally revealing and communicating Himself in His Word.

He is Blesser - eternally pouring His Spirit onto and into Christ.

You can wind back the clock as far as you like into the depths of eternity and you will see life-giving, radiant, communicative blessing flowing out to the Other.  That is His eternal nature.  He is love.  He is light.  Scripture never says He is hate.

His wrath is a response to the alien existence of death, darkness and sin.   It is the response of love to that which would harm or demean His Beloved.  God's wrath is not as eternal as God's love.

What do they sing at that church I wonder?

Fly sinners, fly into those a-a-arms
Of everlasting wr-a-a-ath
Of e-ev-er-la-a-sti-ing wrath! 

Full Text Session 2B - The God of the Cross

Powerpoint Slides - Session 2

AUDIO


The God Revealed at the Cross

Philippians 2:5-11

1 Corinthians 1:17-25

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Group Discussion:

How do you react to these religious statements?

What do they have in common?

-          Divine beings created humanity in order for us to mine gold and other precious materials for them.

-          God created us to test us, to see if good would triumph over evil.

-          God created us so that we would give him glory.

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What is glory?

John 8:54

John 12:23-24

John 13:31

John 17:1-4,5,24

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The cross redefines...

Lordship

Majesty

Strength

Wisdom

Holiness

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Jesus shows us that God is Giver!

Therefore repent and believe the good news!


Common Objection:  I don’t believe there is a god and I’m not sure I want one!


Recommended Reading:  Colossians

How does Jesus shape:

our view of God

our view of ourselves

our view of ministry

our view of the world around us

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Next Time:  The Surprising God
Jesus is not the God of the pub discussion or the philosophy department.  Exploiting the shock value of Jesus in evangelism!

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gold

Maybe your earthly father had short arms and deep pockets.  Or long arms and shallow pockets.  Or crossed arms and closed pockets.

Your Father in heaven is different.

He's rich beyond your wildest imaginings.  6 times Paul says it in Ephesians (1:7,18; 2:4,7; 3:8,16).

He's rich - rich I tells ya.  And it's just the normal word for wealthy. Loaded. Rolling in it.  Stinking, filthy rich.  Like Abraham (Gen 13:2), like Solomon (1 Kings 3:13), like 'the rich man' (Mark 10:25).  Your Father is no pauper.

And neither is He a miser.  He lavishes His children with every treasure at His disposal.  First, He commits all things into the hands of His Son (John 3:35).  The nations are His inheritance (Ps 2:8).  The whole creation is a love gift for Him (Col 1:15-16).  But for the sake of His Son, and so that He might be the firstborn among many brothers (Rom 8:29), the Father brings us into His inheritance. We become objects of the Father's lavish philanthropy.

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.  (Eph 2:4-5)

We weren't just dirt poor, we'd bitten the dust - dead in transgressions and sins.  Yet even in that lowest of gutters God's riches were lavished on us - His riches in mercy - to make us alive with Christ.  Not only this...
In Christ we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us  (Eph 1:7-8)
 Now in Christ we are lavished with freedom and forgiveness of our sins.  And we stand as witnesses to heaven and earth of how generous is our Father in bestowing such treasures:
  And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.  (Eph 2:6-7)
 God is rich and will be known as rich.

But perhaps you don't feel able to appreciate this wealth.  Maybe you're not feeling the benefits of this incredible union with Christ?  Well God's riches aren't just for the bestowal of grace, they enable you to appreciate these blessings too:

I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith  (3:16-17)

You know what this means?  God even has riches that awaken us to the riches He's already bestowed!  Talk about grace upon grace.

And if we despair that we don't already possess these riches in their fullness, Paul has another prayer:

I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which He has called you, the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints (Eph 1:18)

What a day of sumptuous opulence and overwhelming prosperity when we are heirs of God, co-heirs of the cosmos with Christ and when God Himself inherits us His saints.

What can we do in the meantime except...

...to preach to the nations the unsearchable riches of Christ (Eph 3:8)

Christ is the storehouse of the Father's overflowing bounty.  We beggars, who've gotten rich quick, tell the world where to find true wealth.

So rejoice.  Daddy's rich.

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gold

Maybe your earthly father had short arms and deep pockets.  Or long arms and shallow pockets.  Or crossed arms and closed pockets.

Your Father in heaven is different.

He's rich beyond your wildest imaginings.  6 times Paul says it in Ephesians (1:7,18; 2:4,7; 3:8,16).

He's rich - rich I tells ya.  And it's just the normal word for wealthy. Loaded. Rolling in it.  Stinking, filthy rich.  Like Abraham (Gen 13:2), like Solomon (1 Kings 3:13), like 'the rich man' (Mark 10:25).  Your Father is no pauper.

And neither is He a miser.  He lavishes His children with every treasure at His disposal.  First, He commits all things into the hands of His Son (John 3:35).  The nations are His inheritance (Ps 2:8).  The whole creation is a love gift for Him (Col 1:15-16).  But for the sake of His Son, and so that He might be the firstborn among many brothers (Rom 8:29), the Father brings us into His inheritance. We become objects of the Father's lavish philanthropy.

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.  (Eph 2:4-5)

We weren't just dirt poor, we'd bitten the dust - dead in transgressions and sins.  Yet even in that lowest of gutters God's riches were lavished on us - His riches in mercy - to make us alive with Christ.  Not only this...
In Christ we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us  (Eph 1:7-8)
 Now in Christ we are lavished with freedom and forgiveness of our sins.  And we stand as witnesses to heaven and earth of how generous is our Father in bestowing such treasures:
  And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.  (Eph 2:6-7)
 God is rich and will be known as rich.

But perhaps you don't feel able to appreciate this wealth.  Maybe you're not feeling the benefits of this incredible union with Christ?  Well God's riches aren't just for the bestowal of grace, they enable you to appreciate these blessings too:

I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith  (3:16-17)

You know what this means?  God even has riches that awaken us to the riches He's already bestowed!  Talk about grace upon grace.

And if we despair that we don't already possess these riches in their fullness, Paul has another prayer:

I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which He has called you, the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints (Eph 1:18)

What a day of sumptuous opulence and overwhelming prosperity when we are heirs of God, co-heirs of the cosmos with Christ and when God Himself inherits us His saints.

What can we do in the meantime except...

...to preach to the nations the unsearchable riches of Christ (Eph 3:8)

Christ is the storehouse of the Father's overflowing bounty.  We beggars, who've gotten rich quick, tell the world where to find true wealth.

So rejoice.  Daddy's rich.

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I've had many discussions under the title of "Christ in the Old Testament."  But perhaps the issues would be seen more clearly if we labelled the debate: "God in the Old Testament."

And actually, the fact that those two titles sound quite different tells you everything you need to know about the dire Christlessness of evangelical God-talk.

We (and I include myself here in my knee-jerk western deism) imagine that there's a bed-rock deity called "God" who is obviously the God spoken of in Genesis.  And then we discuss whether the Patriarchs also knew this shadowy figure called Messiah.  And we debate how Messianic certain discrete verses are, and to what degree the author was aware, and to what degree the first audience was cognisant of specific promises and appearances, etc, etc.  But we almost never challenge that view of "God" which we all signed off on in the beginning!

Thus from the outset God is defined as - essentially - 'the God of monotheism' (broadly conceived) and Christ is defined as a nuance to a more foundational divine reality.  Then we spend all our time debating how clear the nuance was!

But what if, from the beginning, Elohim was not the god of Aristotle!  It's a shocking thought I know, but let's run with it.  What if He makes all things by His Spirit and Word and says "Let us"?  And what if this is not something that needs to be kept in check by a hermeneutic that expects only the omnibeing?  And what if the LORD God stoops down and breathes into Adam's nostrils and what if, under the name "Voice of the LORD", He walks in the garden in the cool of the day and encounters the couple as a divine Person.

How much clearer Adam saw God than us!  Without the "benefit" of our western theistic presuppositions, he sees the "very God from very God."  He doesn't think in that exact language, but he certainly doesn't think in unitarian categories either.  To think of "the Son" as something extra to his simple belief in "God" betrays disturbing assumptions about who we think "God" is.

Who is this "God" for whom the Son is an addendum?  Why on earth are we beginning the Scriptures with that "God"?  And if the primary truths about God are unitarian, is our own faith primarily unitarian, just with a Jesus nuance?

The question is deeper than "Christ in the Old Testament."  It's deeper even than "God in the Old Testament."  It's the question of God.  Which explains why the issue can get quite heated at times.  But also why it's so crucial.

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